E. Champ. could be Satsume, but doesn't have to be... after all we do not know when he became E. Champ... His father held the position before him, and he would also be a Crane... --Majushi 17:12, 14 Sep 2005 (EDT)
- Satsume took over the Emerald Champion position from his father when he was 21, he was fairly old at the Clan Coup which was in 1123, Tsuruchi was young when he took back his lands in 1109. So say Satusme was only 50 at clan coup( I feel he was older) that means he had been E Champion for 29 years this places him well in the time frame of 1109 in fact for Satsume to not be who it was he would have to have been in his early forties in 1123. Plus it states that the E Champion disliked the Scorpion and the Lion. It seems clear to me it was Satsume.Dairu 16:26, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- Though I am open to the idea that I could be wrong. But doing the math, he would have to have been younger than 34 at clan coup, meaning he took over the E Champion in 1110 at age 21. He had two sons, Doji Hoturi who had to be at least 19 at clan coup meaning he had kids at age 15. Not totally impossiable, but a bit unlikly.Dairu 16:33, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
True, just wanted the possibility to be entertained. altho i do agree with you it is most likely he was that E. Champ... --Majushi 18:59, 14 Sep 2005 (EDT)
- I know that I've seen in print before that Satsume was the Champion at the bonus points to whoever can find it. But regardless, the math means he's pretty much the only one it could have been. --WestonWyse 19:37, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)